Who Smoke?

dirty people.

Are you high?

Anyway, tabacco smoke is nasty and unhealthy, I'm ok with smoking cannabis, it's also unhealthy but most responsible cannabis users only smoke a couple of blunts per week, if not per month. tabacco smokers smoke packs and packs of cigarettes 24/7 no matter what they are doing.

yeah i mean tabacco smokers, bad people!

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Everyone I live(d) with smokes, except my youngest brother who is only 9 years old.  I never smoked a single cigarette in my life and I never intend on touching the stuff, it's disgusting.  It's alergy season, I'm hyper sensitive to rag weed.  Even second hand smoke irritates me to no end.  My sinuses feel like an ashtray.  Fortunately my allergies aren't as bad as they used to be, a few years back my cornea cracked and started to peel because my eyes were so dry and that's with eye drops.  The edges of the cracks were stained yellow because of cigarette smoke.  Cigarette smoke amplifies the effects of my allergies.
The effects of smoking isn't mearly that it will cause cancer 50 years down the road, the health complicatons start immediately.  It won't always take 50 years for cancer to develop either, we had to bury my father at 34 years old because of lung cancer.  He smoked two packs a day, disgusting. 

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My brother smokes... but very few of my friends do.

It pisses me off in Europe when people smoke while they're in restaurants. They don't do it while they are eating, but there's always some fucker smoking when my food arrives. I usually resort to telling them that it they don't put it out or move to another table i'll ram it down their throat.

In Canada you can't smoke in restaurants or bars anymore, it's nice.

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Agent Ghost


In Canada you can't smoke in restaurants or bars anymore, it's nice.

Yeah, we just got a law like that. Everybody has to go outside to smoke.

Places like Spain, Italy and Greece are really bad for it though.

you pretty much can't smoke anywhere in Minnesota, even bars.  It's very nice for the non-smokers.

"If you knew how good I am you would think I'm modest."

I think Ireland was the first in europe to bring in the smoking ban.

I don't smoke anything of any kind, nor am I curious about it.  I just find the act of smoking gross.  It looks gross and smells even worse.  I can always tell when other people smoke just by the way they smell.

I smoke when I feel like it. Djarum Black usually. I haven't had any in a few months though. Didn't quit, just don't have a taste for it. It's nowhere near a habit.

I only smoke in my car or in designated smoking areas though. I know some people don't like the smell, so I'm courteous.

I'm against any law banning smoking though. That should be a decision made by the business owner.

I've never smoked weed or anything like that. I don't see the point.

I'm against any law banning smoking though. That should be a decision made by the business owner.

Why?  The business owner has no stake in the health of his clients or his employees who have to work there for six hours every night.  It's not even a choice for the owner, he's obviously going to want smoking in his place to attract more customers, in all likelihood he won't even be present to breath the toxic air.  It doesn't seem responsible to let the business owner have any say in this matter.  Business owners have enough influence on our laws as it is.  

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 Of course the owner has a stake in the clients. No clients = no money.
If the customers would respond by not patronizing the business, the business owner would ban it of his/her own accord.

But customers don't respond, they just keep coming back. If the customers themselves aren't taking responsibilty for their own health, why should the law force that responsibility on the business owners? Private businesses should be able to control their own environments.

Plus if it was really that annoying, you'd stop going there.

As for the employees, well, I feel a little bad for them. On the other hand, if you take a job in a bar and complain about the smoke that's kinda retarded.


Plus, banning a product because of a public health hazard is hypocritical if the product remains legal. If smoking is so dangerous, make it illegal outright. Don't fuck around with it.

And yes, I know it is actually deadly. I just hate hypocritical laws.

Smoking related illness will usually only kill a person when they're too old to go out anyways.  A bartender's clientelle is mostly in the ages between 20-40.  The bar owner doesn't give a shit if their clients get cancer at 60.  He doesn't give a shit about his employees either, he can replace them with little hasstle.

The only thing he cares about is the year of business when they make the transition between smokers and non-smokers.  Eventually he'll be golden again.  Non smokers will start to go out more, and smokers will get used to it.  Smoking isn't the thread that holds the bar business together, alcohol and sex is.  Trust me, people will get over it.  A minor transitional phase for a business to save some people from cancer, small price.

I'll tell you something though.  I'm all for giving these bars a tax break for a year or two to offset the costs of the ban.  The government will save money from medical bills in the long run anyways.  Afterall, why should the tax payer pay for the damage that smoking bars cost?

The logic of people having a choice to go doesn't satisfy me because we both agree that we should have bars and restaurants.  That means someone has to go, and someone has to work there.  We can blame the victim or we can blame the person that allows for smoking in these places.  And who would that be, it would be the voters.  It's not the business men that should decide, they've caused enough fucking problems everytime they buyout politicians.  In a society that works it's the people that decide.  The business man only has a business because the people allow him to own a business.  In a healthy society that's how it should work.

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If they want it so bad they can chew tabacco, I don't give a fuck that they're ingesting nicotine, I just don't like smoke blowing over my food.

I don't think I'd like seeing "spit cups" sitting on adjacent tables, either.

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smoking is disgusting, its great now they banned it in public places - I can go out without coming back smelling like an ashtray.

Still though, I used to smoke cigars when I was very drunk, at least that's classy.

"The logic of people having a choice to go doesn't satisfy me because we both agree that we should have bars and restaurants.  That means someone has to go, and someone has to work there. "


Is there a law that says if a bar or resturant opens that people HAVE to go? If people HATED smoking SO much that there was a law required, then any place that allowed smoking wouldn't have been successful in the first place.

Sane people don't patronize places they find disgusting. 

Smoking bans are another one of these little babysitter laws that takes away personal freedoms in the guise of protecting people. 

I don't smoke regularly, and I haven't been to a bar in years. I still find it disturbing that if I went to a bar, there's now a LAW that says I can't smoke in there. If there was just a no smoking sign over the bar, no problem. But a LAW is going too far.  


  

nekkid_monkey


"The logic of people having a choice to go doesn't satisfy me because we both agree that we should have bars and restaurants.  That means someone has to go, and someone has to work there. "


Is there a law that says if a bar or resturant opens that people HAVE to go? If people HATED smoking SO much that there was a law required, then any place that allowed smoking wouldn't have been successful in the first place.

Sane people don't patronize places they find disgusting. 

Smoking bans are another one of these little babysitter laws that takes away personal freedoms in the guise of protecting people. 

I don't smoke regularly, and I haven't been to a bar in years. I still find it disturbing that if I went to a bar, there's now a LAW that says I can't smoke in there. If there was just a no smoking sign over the bar, no problem. But a LAW is going too far.  

The smoking ban in Scotland (and the rest of the UK) may had some effect on pubs customer's but not much.  I think the main pubs affected are the wee old man's locals, and even then they're only affected when the weather is bad.  I'm still in two minds about it - bar staff knew they would be working in a smoky environment, and customers knew they were walking into one.  There were non smoking pubs before the ban came into force.

I'm a smoker, I gave up a couple of years ago for 10 months but then lapsed and I smoke more than ever.  Habit costs me around £100 a month.  Nearly all my friends are smokers, but most of our parents are not, so it seems to have skipped a generation in my social circles!

The one real bad thing about the smoking ban is the fact that when you have a load of guys drinking beer, they fart.  The smoke used to cover that up.  A lot of venues won't let you outside to smoke during concerts too, so it's usually worth chancing a cigarette in the toilet or whatever (the mosh pit can be a good place), if you are not going to be let back in anyway.  I've had snuff at a couple of gigs to get around it, but that's pretty nasty.  Of course getting caught could result in a police fine.

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The government should stay out of my damned business. If I want to smoke in a privately owned establishment, I should be able to. The government should have control over their property, and nothing else.

Now, with that said, I find smoking to be revolting personally. It smells nasty, and it tastes like goat shit. I rather like having a smoke-free environment, and I would also like a drink-free public environment too, because I dislike having to deal with drunk stranger, however that's not my place to decide, nor is it the government's.

If someone wants to smoke, and the establishment is okay with it, let 'em. There are literally thousands of places to eat a meal, not to mention, established smoking sections in the restaurants that do permit it.

I was also conflicted.  It's the age old debate of individual freedoms vs. responsible government.  Normally I side with individual freedoms.  However, I think the idea of private property for an open business needs to be reconsidered.  It should be deemed a public area simply because it's open to the public even though it's not owned by the public looking at ownership laws.  The laws do not reflect reality 100%.  Don't get caught up in the term private.  It's not private, its open to anyone, in the case of restaurants this includes children who have little to no choice as to where they go to eat. 

The owner of the bar is providing a service for citizens.  He may have a selfish view on his business, but in essence the property belongs to everyone.  When he dies the property gets past on to someone else, his name isn't permanently entrenched on the land.  The business owner is mearly controlling the property.  And he's only able to do this because he's already following a set of laws.

You're kidding yourself if you think a business owner can do whatever they want with their land.  It hasn't worked like that ever.  The food they serve has to pass health regulations, the building has to pass fire code, even before they construct the building they have to follow zoning laws.  If they fail any of these things the place can be closed down.  With respect to Health regulations, cigarette smoke isn't mearly a bad smell.  It's poison, the shit has over 80 carcinogens in it that have so far been identified.  Thousands of chemicals in second hand smoke, all of them are bad for your health, some are very bad.  If we're prepared to let people blow smoke in everyone's faces, I fail to see the purpose of any health/safety regulations in these public areas. 
    

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in the case of restaurants this includes children who have little to no choice as to where they go to eat.

Very true, nobody ever mentions that.

I hate sexy woman that smoke. When I see them smoking they lose 85 points right then and there.

Well the goverments banning smoking is in it to save money. Health care bills, money lost because people get sick and cant work amounts to quite  alot.

Making life tougher for smokers is an effort to get them to stop and to avoid others getting infected with the disease like smoke.

It wont be many years till its banned all in all

I have a few problems with that.

It's not private, its open to anyone, in the case of restaurants thisincludes children who have little to no choice as to where they go toeat.

Who do you know that doesn't already smoke, who would go themselves to a smoker-heavy restaurant, no less bring their kids? Most family restaurants have had no-smoking policies for years now.

The majority of "smoking" restaurants are midrange sports bars, or high-class restaurants that rely on accommodation to establish return patrons, neither of which are really suitable for young kids.

The effects on temporary exposure to secondhand smoke are seriously limited. You only get into trouble when you're constantly exposed to the stuff. I mean, think about it. Being in a room with a smoker once or twice a month is not going to have an effect on your health. You're more liable to suffer from the food you're eating than the air around you, that is if you eat out moderately. If you're going to restaurants that smoke daily, it's time to take a step back and prioritize anyhow.

Edit: Is "Who Smoke" proper English over there, or is that just a typo?

Typo.

mikayd2


I hate sexy woman that smoke. When I see them smoking they lose 85 points right then and there.

Agreed, but that applies to ALL women.  So yes, that means some women get into the negative numbers.

Who do you know that doesn't already smoke, who would go themselves toa smoker-heavy restaurant, no less bring their kids? Most familyrestaurants have had no-smoking policies for years now.

My family has always dragged me and my brother(s) to smoking zones as kids.  That's not unusual where I live.  As an adult I stopped going out with them just to avoid the smoke.  Now I'll have dinner with them since they banned the stuff.  My aunt lives just past Montreal and she only comes down like twice a year.  She used to get so pissed off when i didn't want to go to diner with them and now that I go when she comes down they can't figure out why, they don't believe my reason. 
 
My step dads mom died of emphysema and she spent her last months strapped to an oxygen tank.  She could not take a step without being out of breath.  Three quarters of her lungs we gone.  The only time she didn't have an oxygen mask on her face was when she had a cigarette in her mouth.   

My favorite example of a smoker's determination is my father.  Guy had lung cancer and stops his two pack a day habit only to move on to his three cigar a day habit.  Expecting him to give me a stupid reason like that they were less harmful than cigarettes, I asked him why he started smoking cigars.  You know what he told me?  He said "when you're dying you can afford to spare the expense".  He was talking about the monetary price of the cigars. 

My point is, if you're expecting a smoker to make the right choices with smoking.  That's like expecting prisoners to be non violent.  They just don't give a shit.

Where I live the only family restaurants here are fast food places.  Even if that wasn't true my parents would never have paid to go out in a non smoking place.  That's pretty much the attitude in Quebec, Smokers don't care about anyone else.  So fuck 'em, I have no pity for people like that.  I'm not getting cancer because they're too lazy to smoke their drugs outside.  It's ridiculous that I have to even argue about this. 

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Id almost take up smoking to show my friends how easy it is to give up with a little willpower...