So not funny...

Re:So not funny... (Eddie_the_Hated)

Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:01:48 GMT

Eddie, just stfu, am I supposed to feel sorry for a couple that has CASH to pay their kids education? Have them grow some balls and take loans like the rest of us, or better yet have them not be retarded and get grants, stfu. If you're old enough to go to college you're not a "child" by the way, that's just fucking pathetic. Typical republican propaganda shit.

This has nothing to do with how you feel. You should logically conclude that somebody who makes their money should be able to keep it. Your argument reeks of class envy, which is odd, as you claim to be relatively well off.

Take away the incentive for financial success, watch the majority sink to mediocrity, with only those with grandfathered wealth weathering the redistribution storm.

Help the poorest of the poor, but don't put them in a position to depend on handouts like our current system. The government's job is to uphold our basic Constitutional rights, and that's about it. The less they have to do with me, rich poor or otherwise, the better.

Re:So not funny... (Agent Ghost)

Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:29:40 GMT

If I ever see this woman I'll drop kick her in the balls.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-4wQfQtpDAc

Re:So not funny... (mastachefbkw)

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:47:26 GMT

The Obama is a lie.
The Obama is a lie.
The Obama is a lie.
The Obama is a lie.
The Obama is a lie.

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:31:21 GMT

So youre refuting a graph because of certain members of the group that put it together? Ive seen graphs from many outlets that claim Obama's tax plan will raise taxes on the 42-60K group. Then again, you wouldnt know that, as youre apparently sucking on the medias dick, which is in turn is taking it in the ass from Obama.

Media coverage has become a joke this election. Its all slanted and bias, and if something bad is said about Obama it's automatically "Republican Propaganda" to the sheeple.

Obama's link to Ayers- brushed to the side by the media.
Obama's tax plan- the average person couldnt tell you what it is or how it affects them.
Obama's stance on Iran- how in the hell is it ok to have open negotiations with a country that has repeatedly stated their goal is the destruction of Israel and the rest of the Western World?
Obama's connection to ACORN- swept under the rug by the media.

Re:So not funny... (Zoy)

Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:34:48 GMT

What about the tax raise on the couple making 42-45K? How is that republican propaganda? If you 42-45K youre not starving or anything, but with the rising cost of living that buts those people dangerously close to loosing middle class status.

That graph that Eddie posted was put out by the American Enterprise Institute. Their annotated Wikipedia entry states "AEI has emerged as one of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy.[2] More than twenty AEI alumni and current visiting scholars and fellows have served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.[3] Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar, and Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, is a senior fellow.[4]"

That's the answer to your question as to how that graph is Republican propaganda.

In contrast, check out these tables of the Tax Policy Center (a non-partisan project jointly run by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution), which analyzes both Obama's and McCain's tax plans, comparing and contrasting by both stump speeches and campaign advisers' statements, and analyzed by both cash and percentile, for 2009 and 2012. Go to this page for the abstract, then click on the link that says "How to Find Tables for TPC's Analysis of the Candidates' Tax Plans" which leads to a .pdf document with extensive breakdowns. I can't find any evidence of a spike in taxes for the 40-50k range no matter what the situation with dependents, etc. is.

Please, people. Don't just look at a graph that any jackass can throw together in Excel and take it for fact. You know there are baldfaced liars out there. And especially don't look at a graph put together by the Bush Administration in another guise and expect it to depict the Obama tax plan accurately.

And, taking Wikipedia with all requisite grains of salt, in fairness here's the breakdown on the Tax Policy Center's origins: "In 2002, tax experts who had served in the Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations established the Tax Policy Center to provide unbiased analysis of tax issues. The following year TPC developed a comprehensive tax simulation model to analyze the federal income tax and proposals to change it. That model has evolved to incorporate new and additional data, changes in federal tax law, and other aspects of the tax system and the economy. The center is currently headed by director Len Burman, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute, and co-director William Gale, Vice President and Director of the Economic Studies Program at the Brookings Institution."

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:15:11 GMT

David Letterman isnt even funny. Seriously, I think VF would be a more humorous host.

Re:So not funny... (Agent Ghost)

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:55:50 GMT

On Bush but still relevant.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMtj0upIn8&feature=related

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:05:04 GMT

What about the tax raise on the couple making 42-45K? How is that republican propaganda? If you 42-45K youre not starving or anything, but with the rising cost of living that buts those people dangerously close to loosing middle class status.

Re:So not funny... (emofag)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:06:04 GMT

Eddie, just stfu, am I supposed to feel sorry for a couple that has CASH to pay their kids education? Have them grow some balls and take loans like the rest of us, or better yet have them not be retarded and get grants, stfu. If you're old enough to go to college you're not a "child" by the way, that's just fucking pathetic. Typical republican propaganda shit.

Re:So not funny... (Eddie_the_Hated)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:41:48 GMT

Yep, counting people who don't work, see what I mean about republicans? Let's tax the unemployed too? How the fuck can you complain about people who dont work not being taxed? Are you seriously a fucking douchebag?

How the fuck can I complain? I can complain if people will soon be getting money back from a system they don't contribute to in any meaningful way. All the tax-credits are refundable, meaning that you receive them even if you have no federal tax liability.

As if that weren't bad enough, the marginal tax rate is going to spike enormously for these people under this new plan, making sure that they're stuck in their respective ruts, waiting for a government check on the first and the fifteenth every month, which leaves their burden planted on those making a good living.

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:47:15 GMT

"I pity the fool" -Mr T.

Re:So not funny... (mikayd2)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:14:29 GMT

You're black, and you're a silly ****. Can i call you a silly black ****?

Wtf I don't know what to say are you calling me the n-word (Not Ninja). I took it as a joke so its all good.

And how am I racist please explain this? Is it because I said I was pro black well I am I love my people what’s wrong with that. I love all people but I do take pride when my people do great things. I also share there shame when they do wrong things.

I do not hate any person of any race ? Nor do I share hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. I don’t think I’m racist but maybe I come off that way to you guys. So I’ll apologize for anything racist I have said today. Maybe my white boy remark was racist. Sorry dan and to all the other white folks on kikizo. I did not want to call him fool so I called him white boy I had no ideal you guys would get so offended by it but he said some things that made me angry and I said some things that I meant (Yes every word) but I could have re-worded what I wanted to say.

Anyways My bad for the name calling next time I’ll use the word fool I think that’s universal for asshole all around. If you guys think I'm racist after all this then oh well. Internet respect my ass.

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:52:53 GMT

That sounds great, zoy. Is this a personal project or do you have a distributor and such?

Re:So not funny... (Zoy)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:49:36 GMT

Zoy
I recently did a series of interviews with incarcerated women here in Washington state...

Eddie_the_Hated
I've always been fascinated with prisons. What placed you in a position to do that?

It's for a short film I'm directing. Part of my combined studies of animation and nonfiction film. It's basically an animated documentary about a group of volunteers who provide support for pregnant incarcerated women. But actually the bulk of the film is composed of interviews with women at the prison. I'll post some screens some time soon. There's several more months to go before it's finished. I began working on it a bit more than a year ago. There's a number of compelling reasons to approach nonfiction with animation but in this case it has some usefulness as being something interesting to the Department of Corrections from a security standpoint, and also provides some degree of anonymity and privacy for the people being interviewed while still being able to accurately indicate their ethnicity and age range.

Re:So not funny... (emofag)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:35:21 GMT

I agree mikayd needs to drop the racist shit, it's one thing being critical and another being racist.

Re:So not funny... (Nitro)

Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:38:51 GMT

mikayd2

Am I racist for calling dan a white boy. He is white and he is a boy is he not I don't think I hurt his feeling.

You're black, and you're a silly ****. Can i call you a silly black ****?

Bububu... my people are so hard done by! Fuck you dude... i'm Jewish!

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:49:12 GMT

emofag

Being in the military doesn't prove anything, 99% of the people in it are poor fucks or uneducated. Unless you actually have a military job, like nuclear engineer, etc. then I respect you, if you're just some shithead combat/reserve nah.

Though I do like the positive aspects of it, I know alot of poor fucks that were shipped out for a year, came back with enough money to pay all of college and put a down payment on a house, so that's cool.

Im not deployable, my contract is college first, with preferecne for any military school and OCS. I scored 90 on the ASVAB(out of 99), they offered me 20K with full college tuition with the hope that I would commission and go to OCS(Officer Cadet School). But Im not going to, Im doing my college and getting the fuck out.

So no, Im not your normal brainless Infantryman. My point wasnt that, its just that a useless IMMAGRANT called me "boy". Im only 19 and have done more with my life than he ever has or will. To call me "boy" is offensive.

Re:So not funny... (emofag)

Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:11:15 GMT

Being in the military doesn't prove anything, 99% of the people in it are poor fucks or uneducated. Unless you actually have a military job, like nuclear engineer, etc. then I respect you, if you're just some shithead combat/reserve nah.

Though I do like the positive aspects of it, I know alot of poor fucks that were shipped out for a year, came back with enough money to pay all of college and put a down payment on a house, so that's cool.

Re:So not funny... (immortaldanmx)

Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:41:53 GMT

choupolo

Well I guess in retrospect, it only really tells me your in the military, heh.

Well your info says a lot about you. Like that youre most likely a Manchester United fan

Re:So not funny... (choupolo)

Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:22:45 GMT

Well I guess in retrospect, it only really tells me your in the military, heh.