Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (immortaldanmx)

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:30:32 GMT

Are you attempting to troll? Youre failing at it. You know, just like everything else that actually has came from africa.

Racism Disclaimer: No, Im not saying "African-Americans". I mean anyone that was actually born in Africa and then came here to live off of welfare and date obese women.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (mikayd2)

Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:54:12 GMT

This sucka told me I can't have cheese on my tacos.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Agent Ghost)

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:24:27 GMT

They're using a custom engine that uses CELL for some of the graphical work. Which means they have the luxury of using more memory for graphics than most PS3 games with are limited to 256MB of RSX.

It's going to be fucking awesome.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (_Majik_)

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:13:10 GMT

FEAR 2 looks dated. There's some really good use of shaders, blur and depth of field effects... but that's where it stops. The character models, interior environments and texture detail are sub-par in comparison. Even the PC version looks like ass compared to Killzone 2.

I didn't really like the original FEAR. It felt dated even then next to Half Life 2, Doom 3 and Escape From Butcher Bay and the weapon design was. A big deal was made about the AI, but i wasn't ever really impressed by it. The slow-mo gunplay was cool and it had some nice particle affects, but i found the storyline lacking and the whole thing a little washy.

The sequel starts well, although you don't get any idea of where the story is going, and the weapon design is infinitly better, but in terms of visual fidelity on all levels... Killzone 2 stops all over it...

I would qualify Killzone 2 with 'The best looking console game i've ever laid my eyes on...". In pure visual fuck-awesomeness terms, it's obviously not quite Crysis, because Crysis is just godly...

....but that isn;t to say i don't think there are areas where Killzone 2 shits all over Cryteks masterpiece. Art direction, character design, weapon design, animations, hit detection etc are all far superior. I'm even seriously impressed with Killzone 2's texturing... it's extremely good in almost every area.

Whether Killzone 2 is likely to be as popular as Halo 3 or CoD4 (Live) online is another question. PSN still has a long way to go to rival Xbox Live. It's also never going to seel as well as either game, but that doesn;t detract from the fact that it's arguably the most badass shooter on any of the consoles. Will they recoup their development costs in the first year? Probably not. It's never going to be as big as the Halo games or even the Gears games... which is a shame... but i couldn't care either way. As far as i'm concerned the whole 2005 trailer controversy has resulted in them pulling out all the stops and [probably] spending far more than they will have originally have budgeted, crafting an absolutely badass experience.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (choupolo)

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:52:06 GMT

http://www.gamershell.com/news_67980.html

You'll find some decent mirrors here.

The base modelling, lighting, textures etc are failrly basic compared to KZ2, but their use of depth of field, motion blur, distortion and tone adds so much to the atmosphere and makes things feel tangibly surreal. Plus the weapons actually have recoil causing damage to everything and anything - which I couldn't really sense from the KZ2 vids.

Its wont be everyones cup of tea as Majik said, but I loved FEAR - the last 30 mins of the game especially were epic. And FEAR2 starts just as intense as FEAR ended.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Silentbomber)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:31:00 GMT

link to good pc demo please.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Eddie_the_Hated)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:22:35 GMT

Really? The engine looks dated, and I don't like the weapons.

I'll give it a chance, because I loved the first one, but from the perspective of having not yet played it, I couldn't rank it up there with MGS4, and what I've seen of KZ2.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Adam Doree)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:01:48 GMT

When I saw FEAR2 back in Dec - slightly above average, move on

When I saw it yesterday - OMFG wow. Looks like KZ2... MGS4 even... :P

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (choupolo)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:11:12 GMT

I wasn't looking forward to FEAR 2 until I just played the demo on PC this minute. Its awesome. The engine is dated but they use their effects incredibly well. Plus its a complete mind-fuck. Much more so than the Condemned games.

Its also a bit less schizo than FEAR was, with a nicer blend of the action and spine-chills than before. I think Monolith have done well and redeemed themselves after some poor expansion pack efforts.

Bearing in mind my PC is dated and being replaced soon - here are some screencaps. AA is turned off for performance but the game runs very smoothly.

Mechs with miniguns are brilliant.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (_Majik_)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:34:09 GMT

Adam Doree

I've been putting off playing the review version until I can dedicate a weekend properly. I think I'll start it tonight but there's also the small matter of Street Fighter IV review disc. :P But you know what, last time I saw KZ2 properly was a long time ago and even back then it was looking like it could match the 2005 target render. From 2006:

"Today, Killzone 2 is without question the most visually striking game we have seen on any console. Seriously. And best of all, it's 100% the real thing. This, arguably, is the showcase that PS3 was made for... In motion, first-hand, this is a visual DEMON of graphical prowess."

Having said that, the latest FEAR2 build looks rather tasty also... ;-)

FEAR 2 is good, but not great. I guess if you loved the first game then you'll love the second, but i didn't and so don't. It's not bad though.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Vx Chemical)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:58:55 GMT

Oh my fucking god, that intro is amazing, it holds exactly what i want in a modern shooter

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Adam Doree)

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:10:27 GMT

I've been putting off playing the review version until I can dedicate a weekend properly. I think I'll start it tonight but there's also the small matter of Street Fighter IV review disc. :P But you know what, last time I saw KZ2 properly was a long time ago and even back then it was looking like it could match the 2005 target render. From 2006:

"Today, Killzone 2 is without question the most visually striking game we have seen on any console. Seriously. And best of all, it's 100% the real thing. This, arguably, is the showcase that PS3 was made for... In motion, first-hand, this is a visual DEMON of graphical prowess."

Having said that, the latest FEAR2 build looks rather tasty also... ;-)

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (_Majik_)

Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:39:18 GMT

Before the title it's CG, ...afterwards it's in engine. The transition to gameplay is superb.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (immortaldanmx)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:53:44 GMT

choupolo

Either way, that intro is sick.

Either way, the game still sucks.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (choupolo)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:18:56 GMT

Either way, that intro is sick.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Silentbomber)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:36:02 GMT

i dunno, parts of that are heavly touched up but i do think some of at least is in engine.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (locopuyo)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:52:05 GMT

Silentbomber

Is this Real Time?

The Intro Is Out, Impressive stuff.

No... You're an idiot.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Silentbomber)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:05:32 GMT

Is this Real Time?

The Intro Is Out, Impressive stuff.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Agent Ghost)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:45:01 GMT

Next gen we won't have to choose. PC is already there.

Re:Food for Thought - Killzone 2 Surpasses Target Renders (Eddie_the_Hated)

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:27:01 GMT

but still there are things that are still better in the 2005 video.

Well of course... but it's CG. It's not like anybody held it to that standard, and in every way short of texture resolution, it's surpassed it.

By and large though, proper lighting and filtering make or break a game's looks, over textural fidelity, especially in games with a darker palette.